glock slide not going into battery with trigger depressed

I initially chalked it up to the recoil spring being too light or a magazine issue, but it's still happening after swapping the stock, barely used RSA back in, and it has happened with all of the extensions. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Do the RSA's need lube? Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. Yes i am. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. Thanks. Display as a link instead, After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. Any ideas on what the issue might be? Haha). If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Upload or insert images from URL. JavaScript is disabled. first off, your slide internals are not installed correctly, the metal should be showing on your depressor plunger and not the rubber and spring and it looks like your missing a pin? Display as a link instead, It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. try firing it. I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? Powered by Invision Community. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. FYI it's not the recoil spring. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. I totally get this. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Just curious as to what Glock said. Like polishing amounts? No lube should be needed on RSA. Paste as plain text instead, If you completely stripped it, listen to alma. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. Just a thought. The gun has about 11,000 rounds through it. Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? Is this normal with these mods? It won't load a round. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. no Go on the back plate do not have one.. It's working fine now. BrianEnos.com The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. This condition would be even worse if I had a round in the chamber and loaded magazine. Great info! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Is it safe to shoot? sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. Thoughts on city living: If I'm at the dump and worried about all the rats, I don't think about how much ammo it takes to shoot them all, I just leave the dump. So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? Got the second trigger for the 34.3, dropped in no problem. Or has it been an issue since purchase? I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. Haha. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Break it in!!! You are using an out of date browser. SJ 40, thank you! Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. What does the extractor look like? It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. This allows me to use my loads (in 9mm, I'm usually around 3.4 - 3.7gr Titegroup under a 124gr JHP) and the gun runs flawlessly. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. JavaScript is disabled. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. Eject it. I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. Its light but mushy. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. Did you try having someone else shoot it? Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. In one range trip (about 350 rounds) and one match this past weekend, I basically can't get through a magazine without multiple failures to go into battery. 20+ is for 10mm. BrianEnos.com They dont always fit perfectly right away. The triggers arent nearly as drop in as theyd like to make them out to be. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. Will get some pics next time at the range. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. Once I put the stock one back in no problems. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. It's always good to close the loop when a problem is discussed. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. It should close by itself. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. The tools. I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. is your locking block seated correctly? If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. Display as a link instead, With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. Wondering if you ever got your issues resolved? If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. Building a V2 soon. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. The hit on the primer was a solid hit, dead center on the .45 case that blew out. It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. Just an excuse to try something new. Sorry about that. I will look into it. I will let everyone know what I find out. 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. Several failures to go into battery per magazine? You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. Would suggest taking the slide off, checking to see the position of the spring. One way to discover if it is or isn't the problem is get out your calipers and measure along the slide rail slots in many places for each slide rail slot and then your front locking block slide rail and rear slide rails and the numbers will tell you if it's the problem or not. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. Pasted as rich text. I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. Welcome to Glocks, releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. There are too many to quote, so I will just address the points. Another dumb question is are you intimately familiar with taking the gun part and putting it back together? I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. Your previous content has been restored. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. I had a problem like that in my G34 when I was shooting it. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. Handy to have this around while you're tinkering A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. I had a problem with my G23 that did exactly that. Glocks are pretty simple really. I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. Any Glock armour out there that can give me some advice? A couple weeks ago I installed a Timney Trigger with the red return spring. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. It sounds more like a recoil/mag spring issue to me. Have you tried a different firing pin spring? I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. If not HELP PLEASE! The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. Lord, make me fast and accurate. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. Your link has been automatically embedded. I just push it a fraction of an inch with my thumb, and it's good to go. Just got a new spring today. Its never happened with the factory barrel. This allowed the rear trigger housing to raise up and give me battery/jamming issues as well. You cannot paste images directly. Lots of creep, but that is by design. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. Is this RSA going to $hit already? Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. Oh its not a logical move. Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. It did shoot fine. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. One new winner* is announced every week! What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. I took the gun apart this morning and the screw that holds the timney sear housing in the Glock housing was loose. Hopefully that's all it was. What load you firing? Let me start by saying that I know I bought the wrong aftermarket slide. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Tapping on the magazine or back of the slide gets the round to chamber. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. Upload or insert images from URL. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. You should seriously look at the takedown lever. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. Discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories classifieds... 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