would you marry a girl who slept around
same discounted price. The double standard thing is something that a lot of people ignore because I guess they feel as if, women should behave in such manner that is acceptable to society! What non practical thing are you buying with your maintenance loan first. The raw numbers are there for anyone to see, and as anyone can see, there is a strong and direct correlation between number of partners for the woman and likelihood of marriage failure. A woman can own her body without giving it to every Tom, Dick, and Harry who comes along. CLICK HERE to download this special report. And when we end up with a man to settle down with, its like you expect us to know all the ropes cause you been around. I just feel that the issues are deeper than sex or promiscuity. Also, punctuation would help. You said it in your comment Jeraldelmcclane women who are unable to stay connected emotionally to their husbands. I feel most people focus on the physical aspect of sex but overlook the mental and emotional aspect which plays an even bigger role in how good the sex can be. What I want to encourage you to do is to understand what is done is done. One would have to define perfect first. Our passed has shaped our futures, so when a person refuses to tell you about their past, it's time to move on, because they have just shaped both of your futures, by refusing to open up. FACEBOOK is a trademark of FaceBook INC. Stephan Speaks | All Rights Reserved 2020. Also in your other comment you gave the example of the rapist and that is a great way to make your point, but lets flip this. Strength and confidence have nothing to do with it in my opinion. Marriage can't be only about sex. I'm not sure how many guys she has slept with partially because I feel like asking that question is a sign of insecurity and I'm trying to avoid showing I'm insecure about it as well as being terrified by what the answer could be. Women need to get it together!!!! For example, marriage is beautiful union however,You can get married but,, marriage does not mean you are barred from temptation nor does it mean forever. In my opinion that would be the better approach that can produce better results. Run. Would you marry a girl who slept around? Most married men dont even know their wives past and they are living a Lie. It honestly is a question of a womans character. There is no way in hell that I can possess every great quality of all 15 of those men, and none of the flaws. I'd like to believe the girls I'm seeking hold value to themselves and know what they are worth, unlike my current girlfirend sadly. If you are brigading from another subreddit you will be banned. The more we avoid words that make some people feel attacked (though I myself have been guilty of it), the better we can move the discussion in the right direction. esp on the parent side of things. It makes it an issue when she has slept with 50 plus guys and the male only a handful. There's a lot of super fucking toxic aspects to it but at the same time a lot of truth. Idc what you say. I agree we should be honest, but when society creates such negative dialogue about women who have taken this route, it makes it harder be open and honest about it. He is happy, so should the number hold that much power and the relationship end? I totally agree with you. Consider your 20s your best years is VERY subjective. considerations including self-worth, that daddy used to go on long She is a human being like a man is a human being. Thats roughly a new guy each month. Not too many women want a man that other women dont want. We have been together for almost a year now. So if you have a woman who has X amount of partners but have truly addressed her issues then I do not believe she will have a higher rate of divorce over the woman who has only had one partner but a slew of issues she has not properly addressed. Lol promiscuous men have a degenerate mentality. She is the exact opposite of what my current girlfriend is. That is all the article is trying to say. last I will say is women can go abt sleeping, its okay if thats What u want While the next woman can be known around town and still have managed to not catch any STDs. This article is not saying to just have sex with whoever and everybody should accept it. Men choose what qualities are appealing in choosing who to commit to what you or anyone else thinks should matter has about zero influence on what men choose, if women want to get married someday the have be what a man wants to marry. Some will find some way to not count certain experiences so that they can say a lower number (ex: she was drunk, it was really bad, he never finished, it didnt last long enough, etc). I dated a woman most wouldn't consider a beauty, but she was smart and funny and great in bed. Its about having standards that say, as a man, if Im going to marry and commit my life to someone, its going to be someone with the self-respect and characterto have not been a whore. Women have 10 lb babies & tighten right back up with the right maintenance (from experience). So I guess what I want to say is yes, you do have the right to sleep with anyone as long as youre safe, and I would never call you a slut or judge you etc.but please realise that you could eventually be causing pain in the future to someone who loves you dearly. too many people: Remember that there is a good chance your lover feels guilty Whats cool is a man being willing to marry a woman he genuinely loves and connects with regardless of how she once was in the past. And some dudes value the experience of a woman who has been around. I agree with you 100% that the more partners a man or woman has can have a negative impact on how they handle future relationships. But since sex is expensive for women, she gets to choose. Location: Melbourne, Australia. For rich or for poor.. So dont judge her based on a number, evaluate her based on the woman she is today. I choose not to do that because that is not what this discussion should be about. The Beginning and the End. The article is discussing why the specific number should not matter when a man is choosing his partner and the fact that the woman she is today is not always the same woman she once was. So there is a responsibility on both ends. You make a very good arguement and I like how you articulated it. I dont want a girl that has it in her head that 16th time is a charm. There are women who have been with very few men and still experience the same issues. See I then made the mistake of going through all of her old emails and weve talked about it alot it never makes me feel any better about it just worse to be honest to know the things shes done, now shes a mom, we have a baby together and it kind of taints the whole thing. As you stated, as long as she is disease free, there should be no issue. I am the type that wants to get to know a women before I date her. think of the consequences of her actions. What matters is if there is real love between two people. What if I were to continue with her and have kids? Am a runs girl last month but now a millionaire today. And, why would she want you after all your wear and tear? It assumes that all women have slept with more partners than I would find comfortable (far from correct), and that the only way I could end up happy and not lonely is to settle down and marry someone. Make smart choice with who you choice to sleep with and protect yourself and if your going to be a hoe men or woman stick your chest out and be honest with people about your numbers and your mates you dont have to tell everyone. Its safe to say that we feel/felt that way about each other. Men stand to lose their homes, assets and children even when they were the ones who honored their vows, to have and to hold, for better or worse. On the surface all may look well, but when you go deeper many women will acknowledge they were never truly in love or connected with their mate. My point in the end is although it shouldn't matter, it does. spoken likea girl who has slept with a lot men. PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill. Of course you agree. I know she has never had a super long term relationship and by her own admittance promiscuity has always been a part of her life for example. Women are thought of being prudent and conservative. You can be with a woman who only tells you she only slept with 3 guys when in reality you may have to add a 0, or two 0s. Most guys dont want to do that either. I feel if a man wants his ideal to have had less past partners than I have had, then there isnt a future between us. I will definitely address it and I hope you let me know what you think when that time comes : ). Thank you, Lord, for resurrecting from the dead. Im seeing this guy and hes super hesitant bc he doesnt know the exact # of people I have been with. And the truth is most men wont like it. to pass on genes in males). This is a trite platitude devoid of meaning. Alex, who exactly is the owner of this superior mind that you speak of? To people who are in love with someone that has had sex with Am I saying that women that have what would be considered a large number of partners should be shunned? assuming they're not self-destructive (no, "lots of sex" isn't automatically self-destructive), in my experience, they're not only better and more adventurous in bed, they're passionate, supportive, loving, kind, and ambitious. Im not saying that the way I thought was right but being raped for 3 years by the same man and molested by someone else that loved you has its effects on your mind and heart. About how each time she sleeps I'm a lot more attracted by personality than by physical beauty, although obesity is mostly a deal-breaker. Shadow Hunter-March 5, 2022. I think if sexuality was embraced more instead of used as a marketing tool women wouldnt be ashamed or use sex for any other means. If your just hitting it no big deal. For a man on the African savannah, he looked for youth, health and fecundity (fertility). Not truly. someone to come along and love you for who you are? I feel like I have generally improved on processing my thoughts and emotions and have seen positives in being more communicative with her as of late so I agree with you there. The Era of female double standards is drawing to a close. It means women can never have freedoms to make decisions at all. Don't feel comfortable dating a high count girl/guy? -Choices have consequences 9 d. 395 opinions shared on Marriage & Weddings topic. It would best be done in the Women have a rep to protect and as a woman doing that knows shes gon have a name for herself so why do that in tha first place if you gon ne ashamed about tha number? Im not saying that my hoe friends shouldnt find a great man one day but damn, if they saw them now theyd never get wifed. I go to a state school & am constantly reminded that its a small world. Big problem with your logic: when we are choosing a mate to be with, we inherently judge whether that person is the best for us to be with. HOWEVER, if the candidate was honest about their past and they were suitable, they stand as good a chance as any. before getting to know me, my first thought would be Wow! But hey, it is what it is. Do you realize that technically men can be hoes to, so should we say Cant turn a hoe into a Husband? You will feel that you left . Based on your comment I will assume you believe in GOD. I completely agree to everything you said.. Don't you think maybe someone with a little more experience could help you? Its not about allowing women to act similar to men, but simply to not judge women who may have had a promiscuous past. Promiscuous people usually are incapable of having long-term I run into more issues with the fact that some women have literally had over 15 boyfriends, and have slept with them all, multiple times even. What girl will you marry? What if they have lived within your value system for most of their lives, but had a couple of years that they were super wild for whatever reason? We all have a past & lol about the wear & tear comment. I have seen women who may have once been viewed as hoes be the most faithful in a relationship. It just isnt right. So again basing her value as a woman off of numbers shouldnt really mean much. I agree that you should not settle, and that finding someone you connect with and are compatible with is obtainable (as well as one of the keys to a great relationship). Another point, women/guys who sleep around a lot seem to keep their partners as friends. Though I hate emotional baggage. However, you chose to explain a womans promiscuity with abuse, mental issues, and low self-esteem. Im sure /your/ marriage will be different though. Its the woman you wanted. God did not create us to be WHORES, and I am referring to both Men and Women. I'm having a lot of insecurity cause I'm getting involved in this thing with this girl who quite honestly by an objective metric is a slut. Its just not allowed. The red pill community has this notion that women are lesser but I haven't seen that too much in the more toned down PUA community. or how many different babys daddy she has is not important. In this life, moral responsibility will offer you far, far more than even being able to regain what you may have lost, even following reconciliation. Much like you are forcing the woman in your life to do, would you rather start out a relationship based on a lie? I disagree with you. Okay okay, maybe that is a bit extreme. As women and men i am very sure we have all made mistakes and hopefully learned from them as well. Independent. Yes there is a higher possibility of STDs but a woman could have only been with 2 men and be infected vs. the woman who had over 30 and is still disease free. So many men end up with a woman they swear meets their standards in regards to their sexual past, but really she has done much more then he will ever know. Not to mention her self-esteem would of been shattered. My life was so hard because of my sexual freedom so I want her life to be much easier than mine and easier would be for me to teach her to not express her sexuality and to just hold out as long as possible. Dude, consider this: she's got the experience to know what she wants and what she doesn't want. If she is good enough to be with before that number was discovered, then she should be good enough after the fact. You really want to marry miss double penetration? The idea that a large percentage of dudes do want to settle down or have only LTR's shouldn't be news to anyone. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. HIV has an incubation period of 6 months before anything will show up on medical tests, or he or she could be the lucky one who doesnt have as strong of a reaction to it as most others do and therefore have no idea that they have HIV in the first place. Marry the person who you want to be with for the rest of your life. See, I can understand a man deciding not to be with that woman because their views and values dont line up. Same boat. but not an automatic deal-breaker. As of today a lot of women in late teens and 20's are in a "hoe stroll" and this article in just another trash it makes them have a reason / justifying their action. Heres me who was afraid to even chat with a woman online suddenly decides to get on a plane for 13hours and go meet her, we spent an amazing month together, best time of my life at the end of it for some reason I asked her, how many guys you been with her response was I lost cou- I mean I cant remember maybe 30. For me it was a shock should I care? Although hes been with girls that are tighter than I, he comes quicker, harder, and more intensely and immensely because of his emotional towards me. The only difference will be in how you now choose to perceive her and how you handle that perceptionThis article isnt trying to say it is right or wrong, good or bad, or whatever when it comes to promiscuity. And I prefer to date her for a while before I sleep with her. If she is everything you would want a woman to be and currently shares your same values. So now u, a faithful man, deal with this truth and your surroundings are people fixated on sex. That is just my opinion but we are all entitled to go about life however we please. Level-Headed. Women are yet to be seen as equals. , I am asking you to state your sources. First, I asked her what she thought. It matter amd why I dont see my damn comment I posted on here about thisarticle? You may not mind to share your life with someone who has share herself with everyone who show some interest but for me it is very a very important detail as it is part of the whole person you arechoosing since I have that capacity of choice I want to have a nice person as a whole including a matching in our values personally I am sure I would not go ahead with a woman with this kind ofbaggage. So shes had a lot of partners at the same time in the past- if everyone in the situation knew what was up (that there was no expectation of monogamy), then theres no harm to it! We all spout platitudes about what our beliefs are, and often, these can be idealized versions of who we wish we were. If i have to move out of town or state just so I dont have to deal with her many past smashes, then it aint worth it! Just judging by how erratic, panicky and rather desperate you have written your message above. that it is fine to date a slut but I just want some fucking piece of hope cause I don't want to drop this shit as I really like her. In my attempt to be understanding, I heard her out about everything including listening to her tell me that she was very intoxicated, was caught off guard each time (wasnt planned), liked ONE of the guys, and that the other guy was his best friend/roommate. And no one will understand fully if they didnt make a similar choice. Bianca, why in the world would you think the number of men you have slept with should not matter? You make an excellent point and I wanted to leave the door open to a separate post that would address the trust issue as well as the why she has slept with so many men. Respect her wants and needs, respect her goals, her hopes, and her plans for her future. Also consider that all people who engage in a lot of casual sex have higher rates of depression and low self-esteem and lower rates of life satisfaction. Thank you so much : ) I really appreciate that. These are the things that are going to be But it will be in the back of your mind. I think many married couples lack a connection. But if a woman slept with 20 men and didnt know half of them, then it could be safe to consider her as a hoe. Again, you say the past shouldnt matter. If I were a man, I wouldnt want to be with a woman and everytime we leave the house fear bumping into one of her former sex partnerswhat does she have to give her husband if she has given it to 100 men? Either way thank you for allowing me to share . A woman who cheats on her husband has violated their relationship. 2. panophobic. Statistically, men and women who have only had one sexual partner have stayed together longer than others. How many men a female has slept matters because: My point is having 5 female lovers or 50 male lovers w/ the opposite sex doesn't matter! People lets come out of denial, a false sense of entitlement, male privilege, or whatever it is and do our own self examination as Holy Spirit would have us do! Thanks for your input man I appreciate it, ErmdudeI don't think you are in the best place to be with anyone right now tbh. Right..so why would I want her after all that wear and tear.LOL Id rather all that Wear and Tear come from me. I suggest maybe going to a counselor or therapist that can help you both get through this. If a woman is still behaving in a way you dont agree with then by all means keep it moving. Nah, I would like somebody who had value for themselves like I did. Ladies need to just respect themselves overall. Nobody is talking about women who are prudish or disinterested in sex. your mobile device and email, or tell them your whereabouts if their worried. This is such a typical question. I can only say you are a strong person. He is allowed to his opinions and values as much as u are allowed to your body If you feel that this is the case, maybe consider whether it is fair for her to have you in her life. for adults. Declines to tell their significant other, then it means that they are not open and willing to be honest about their passed. It has been made apart of this life, but not apart of eternal life..We have one teacher here that JESUS and HE knows more about the subject than you do.In The Book of Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers GOD will judge. Why cant we they have their cake and eat it too? well now endure the consecuences you will find people who doesnt care but you will also face that there are people who cares. 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