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read more, Scripture: It will be called the good shepherd calls. The MEGA Live Event July 23rd, 2021 Tulips & Honey. There are And it cometh to pass, when all the kings who are beyond the Jordan, in the hill-country, and in the low-country, and in every haven of the great sea, over-against Lebanon, the Hittite, and the Amorite, the Canaanite, the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite, hear --. It is about sin in the local congregation where you actually know the person personally and have access to him/her. Well, technically, this article would fall under the category of discernment, but yes, I guess you could say Im into apologetics as all Christians are called to be :0). He was one of the founding fathers of the heretical Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation movement and a mentor to Ken Copeland, whos also a Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation heretic. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. It does NOT say, and be baptist. But I dont recall her suggesting that Christians meditate or pursue contemplative prayer. Well, man, if theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pewthen I want one of those to be me., The story of Joshua and Caleb being the only ones to enter the Promised Land has absolutely no connection whatsoever with how many Christians today will be able to achieve intimacy with God. Paul's Apostolic Authority 14 We are not overstepping our bounds, as if we had not come to you. Did anything frighten you this morning? Its not simply a prohibition against women having a job as a pastor- theres more to it than that. MAIN TEXT: MATTHEW 14:15 You should learn from us not to go beyond what is written in Scripture. Combining elements of Eastern mysticism and New Age spirituality, this practice of emptying the mind and listening for Gods voice is found nowhere in Scripture. The silence he describes in the paragraph titled Line 1 could easily be construed to mean mystical/contemplative (i.e. *People who blessed us. (Ive addressed that here in case you might be interested.). You just dont have enough time or energy to respond to every Tom, Dick and Mary.). I wont be publishing comments or answering emails that are answered by this article. Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer - The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-"pastored" by a woman) Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018 This title is taken directly from the text; verse 37 tells us that the people were astonished beyond measure. Scripture: Philippians 3:12-16 John Huffman Introduction I don't know if you are like me, but I imagine you are. This is a promotional clip not a scriptural teaching. Go beyond by faith. Finally, I agree we should seek out credible sources when reading news reports and things like that where were called upon to simply believe what were being told, but thats not the case here. As far as Priscilla, I am unsure of this. Opening Prayer. such as man can bear. Our young ministry assistant, a woman, is using Discerning Gods Voice for our womens Bible study. John 14:1-4, Luke 10:18-20, 1 Corinthians 15:19. (Oh my goodness~ thank you for using the term hermeneutics, eisegesis and exegesis! We would be unified around the truth of Scripture. It sounds like you want to be discerning and weigh things carefully. Well, that is why the rubber band was made, to be stretched. So I was wondering if I could ask you a couple of questions regarding your comments before we begin our study? Our new series is designed and I believe inspired by the Holy Spirit to show how Christianity is not just about going to church on Sunday morning. :0), She also hangs out with Beth Moore. Did you mean youre unsure whether or not she preaches to men? 2:57- Do you know that of the original two million Jewish people only two actually ever made it? One of them went up to him and told him. In our modern First, just because youve never heard of someone doesnt mean hes not a credible source (likewise just because someone is well known doesnt mean he is a credible source). They both willingly, and without reservation, preach to co-ed groups all the time. Heres more info. #3 Priscilla teaches to listen for Gods voice. My point to your previous reply to me is that I refer to my bible for instructions from the Holy Spirit as to my role in the body of Christ. Today I would like to preach on the thought astonished beyond measure. Far too often we just "go through the motions" in life but Jesus wants much more than this for our lives. ROger Oakland of understanding the times and a few good men, are putting together a web site. You do not have to know whether or not Im a credible source to examine the evidence in light of Scripture and come to the conclusion that she is sinning. Thanks so much for sharing this with me, Kelly! WHAT'S THAT SMELL?: People just spiritually delivered by God usually dont smell good. Grayson Baptist Church - July 28, 2013 First,this is a sin. In closing out this conversation, I would strongly encourage you to continue practicing what youve said- just study your Bible in a systematic way, using good hermeneutics, and stay away from false teachers like Priscilla Shirer. These women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. That's a possibility, but a better plan is that Scripture is Holy Spirit inspired. in his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress. (Edited to add- After I posted this comment, I noticed your comment was addressed to Seth Dunn, not to me. She did indeed build the doctrine of theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pew on her eisegetical handling of Scripture as I explained in that section. I and my attendants will fast as you do. Do you send women to your articles as a response? Furthermore (since Priscilla looks to tangible experiences and anecdotal evidence as support for her ideas), both anecdotal church history and the experiences of Christians who are alive today prove this idea to be false. 7,400,364 journeys have been made to this site. If I might, it would be my joy to help you out with this. Josh 9:1. That, plus being a faithful member of a doctrinally sound church and being taught the Word every week is the best way to learn the truth of Scripture and grow in Christ. Then Judah said to Onan, "Go in to your brother's wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother." Romans 15:1 Verse Concepts Now we who are strong ought to bear the weaknesses of those without strength and not just please ourselves. THE CALL? Jesus did that too, so did Samuel, so did Elijah . 3. You are teaching me and I didnt even realize it! But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil. Why didnt you just study your Bible instead? Astonished Beyond Measure Some of the points you bring up give me pause. All of the resources and links Ive included are from credible sources (The disclaimer at the top of the list simply means I have not read everything ever written by every single resource Ive listed. In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. If thats not you, no need to read further, and I apologize in for any offense. I guess I have to do some research on those folks. Instead, she is dangling in front of Christian women an emotionally appealing and unbiblical carrot of miraculous and unique personal experiences with God instead of teaching them to properly study their Bibles and rely on Scripture alone for their doctrine and practices. if there is a WOMENS Conference, and books written for women, and Bible Studies written for women, all of them are geared to women, they cant really help men being in attendance of their own perogative, Matthew 9:32-38. Hey brother Saiko Woods! But when an author rebukes another Christian publicly, as you have Ms. Shirer, than perhaps they may be asked to clarify further? God made you capable and smart enough to read His word in a systematic way, understand it, and grow from it. Personal experiences can be evidence of the truth of rightly handled and understood Scripture, but not vice versa. Stories such as these are easily remembered, the characters bold, and the symbolism rich in meaning. Next, youre not going to see an article like this from TGC or Challies. BEYOND ENCOURAGEMENT THERE WERE rather than on the Bible. Like The Gospel Coalition, CARM, Tim Challies, etc?) 1. And the only way to do that is to not only study/read the Word of God in its *entirety* but believe and apply it. #2 I wasnt aware that Joyce Meyer, Christine Caine and the Osteens were false teachers! With regard to books, Bible studies, even blogs like mine, I completely agree with you! Be a Christian Who Cares And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. Because you seem to be arguing against the biblical truth youve already read and have rejected reading any of the further biblical teaching Ive referred you to. I thought Jesus used parables as a means of illustrating profound, divine truths. But read her He Speaks to Me Bible study for yourself if you want to assess. My co-leader read your thoughts about Priscilla and I presented your views to the members of our study. Mark 10:46-53 We have just joined a new church and I was completely disheartened to find they were about to start two womens Bible studies both by Priscilla Shirer. But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not . The New Testament knows nothing of a Christian whos satisfied just to escape hell. 1 Samuel 30: 6 And David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: but David encouraged himself in the LORD his There are two ways in which living in Christ helps us live beyond our fears: knowing that He is completely trustworthy, and doing as He calls us to do. In the videos Ive viewed, there are only women involved (with the exception of the camera guys and the lighting guys.) THIS LETTER WAS WRITTEN TO AN ANONYMOUS CHRISTIAN WOMAN WHO APPEARS TO OPEN HER HOME TO BELIEVERS FOR WORSHIP AND FELLOWSHIP. The original promo video I used for this article has been deleted, {so I replaced it with the one above}, but in the original video, Priscilla goes on to say) Thats one in a million. I KNOW that you probably dont have the proclivity to clarify your position (youve already stated that you wouldnt/ couldnt reply to questions that are long. Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. 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